@stator vane,i totally agree with you when you said the radar gives you an overestimated picture from the normal,in this case when you're in a situation where you can't differentiate from ground returns to weather is using the tilt in manual the best option?I'm asking because i've tried it the other day as i took the radar to manual i tilted it slightly up -1 and some of the returns disapeared we passed through with no shakes.