"Curiouser and curiouser! said Alice" - Well, I am certain that neither Lewis Carroll or Robert Lundrum or even Douglas Adams could have written the script!!
This thread has taken many twists and turns, the latest is a PM I received from DA42queen. Normally PM's remain private, unless they are deliberately designed to mislead.
DA42Queen, who sent the PM, just happens to use the same (FIXED) IP address as Westbeach Leader, WestBeach Student and Lasham 172.
It's reasonable to assume that they share the same Internet provider and have all used the same internet connection at some point during their communications with this thread. If we look at the wording of the posting by Lasham 172, anyone with a little background knowledge might be WRONGLY led to think that Lasham 172 was perhaps the Airfield Manager at Halfpenny Green, who flies a 172 and did work at Lasham, He is a highly respected person who is renown for his honesty and integrity, he is also a Magistrate. With that in mind it's worth reading again the posting - (which had been deleted, following the Airfield Managers post rebuking the post of Lasham 172)
Deleted post of Lasham 172:
I must take issue with the nature of the posts on this tread. It is true to my knowledge that 2 post holders were removed from the HGFC/FAW (soon to be Westbeach) staff. But this in a least one case was due to misconduct to a significant level. This individual has a history of being a most confrontational individual and I can fully understand that the company had no choice in terminating his employ. Airfields like EGBO HAVE to survive for the good of GA, and they can only survive if operators exist and can work effectively. As for bringing the CEO into it, that is quite frankly absurd. Regarding the unpaid wages at flight academy wolverhampton that is a historic situation that took place even before the present owners were in place, when it was still owned by Flight academy Blackpool. I can also advise you that invoices are headed HGFC and FAW as the company has operated as 2 companies up to this point. I have had reason to use the companies services myself and have consulted my archived invoices to establish this fact. You can be assured I would be the first to distance myself from a dubious operator due to my position. and I can assure you Goldeneaglepilot, that your investigation is flawed and indeed misinformed. These rambling would be thrown out of any court of law I am familiar with, and they should be discarded as trivia on here.
This thread does nothing but pointlessly and unfairly damage the image of EGBO and a operator attempting to form a useful enterprise.
Yesterday I received a PM from DA42 Queen. The content is below:
Westbeach Flight Academy
Hello Sir,
I dont like the PPRuNe forum at all, in fact I aviod it. But this information about westbeach concerns me. I am in talks with them to lease an aircraft from myself. Could you tell me, are any facts i should be aware of. I have met with the key personel there and all appears fine. Their story is that this PPRuNe stuff is the work of an ex staff member!
You appear to have a woking knowlage of this operator!
Any info you could pass onto so as to help me make an informed decision on involving myself with westbeach would be a great help.
Thanks.
Well DA42 Queen, I suspect that as you have used the same IP address as the others then you are indeed already involved with Westbeach.
My working knowledge "of this operator" is from what can be obtained in the Public Domain.
Rather than setting up numerous users, all from the same internet account, users which when you read the posts seem to try to portray a "story", would it not be easier to establish credibility (if there is nothing to hide and no problems) to simply answer the question posted sometime ago?
To recap, the main question (from post 8 on 12th July) was:
3: Please confirm, in view of your published comment (See below), that due to the funds available to the owner that the rumours about outstanding debts are in fact untrue and all the aircraft and associated costs, staff costs, airfield costs etc are paid up to date and other than the expected "30 day" invoices is all that's outstanding? It would be good to hear your reassurance as without doubt it would quash any rumours flying around.
For anyone reading this who does not understand why the posting has been made, its simple really - there have been numerous calls from creditors (to various parties) confused as to exactly what company (within the "Westbeach" name
change umbrella) owes them money and who they should be addressing to serve papers to recover money.
Perhaps this is all a simple misunderstanding.