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Old 3rd Aug 2012, 00:34
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ColonialFlyer
 
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. For instance for an hour in the BE-76 and C-172 Dual with Aviator is 280 and 180, whist with EFT that will be 450 and 250, thank you very much . If you ask them why, they will tell you it's because it's JAA training.
Everyone admitted above that EFT was good, Aviator was the problem - you get what you pay for that's why EFT is more expensive - it's also EASA which is expensive to regulate. If you haven't understood that by the time you took your CPL that's rather worrying!

I just looked at their APP - it's pay as you go....although if you can't complete a PPL in 8 weeks then in my opinion fair enough - I wouldn't have wanted to subsidise other people's training to join the ATPL class because they couldn't done in 8 weeks yet I got done in 4. That's student socialism. This is a capitalist world - you need more training it costs you and if you miss your course space that's fair enough in my eyes - every school I went to had the same policy on that front.

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But when you are not doing well, you need to have a deep wallet!
That should be a sticky - it's universal to all schools! Great post.

My personal experience of flight training is that I got sick of other students complaining that they paid more for training when they didn't do very well. I was also sick that I knew that to keep things fair I was effectivily subsisding some of their training in the course cost as the school knew that some would drop out, when they were either lazy or just had a crappy PPL and expected the world to righted on their CPL - cheap PPL and cheap hour building doesn't get fixed in 25 hours! However this in indicitiave of society nowadays - no one will take responsibilty for themselves!
BigGrecian:
First of all, thank you for your sarcasm. With your relentless effort of defending EFT, I strongly suspect you are Mattew Adams. I can't careless however, as I am merely stating facts.

I really don't have problem with US JAA school to charge more (even significantly more) if the pricing is upfront, but it is not the case as stated in my original post. EFT attracts people in with low package price and "make up" with the earnings with the more expensive overfly hours, which is not even my highlights here. In my opinion, EFT makes money out of the underachieving APP students and charge them a few thousands dollars. I agree on some young lads there are fcuking about and deserve to be fined as they do not put in enough work, however, there are also student who are trying their damnedest to make it work, but EFT's support is non existent. You can't just write someone off without trying because it's easier and more profitable to do so, which is what EFT has been doing for the past few years.

Before any of you come back with comments/speculations such as "This guy is an underachiever APP student himself and disheartened". For the record, I only did a PPL with EFT and I finished within the syllabus hours as I had some hours beforehand, so I didn't get ripped off and I'm happy. But I feel obligated to warn my fellow pilot/wannabe of the risks of training with EFT.

To be fair, EFT is probably one of the best JAA FTO in the US, but again I would n't go to any of them, they are all after you money (unethically, because they can get away with it). I would rather train in Europe.

Hope my 2 cents is worth as much to you.

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