Originally posted by Lyman - Why do you bring up TWA800, it is insulting. I am no conspiracist. You think listening to the entire CVR would add nothing to the PUBLIC perception of the pilots' actions? Now that is truly remote.
You feel insulted because you misread the word I used - Theorist. A conspiracist conspires, a theorist theorizes. I think you are a theorist. I think the salient points regarding pilots' actions have been released by the BEA in their final report. But if you want to know how thing were in Rio, what they are going to do upon reaching Paris, etc., well, .....
Originally quotes by Lyman - BEA is holding back some cards. And, Airbus and BEA insult all of us who are capable of understanding not only flight, but controls and failures, with this entirely unsatisfactory report.
Theories, most theories tend not to hold water in the end because they have no facts supporting them.
Originally posted by Lyman - Sad for this flight that the FDs were not turned off? It is outrageous, in my opinion. I am of the opinion that the crew were unaware they dealt with UAS for precious seconds, and made decisions based on their belief that NORMAL LAW obtained, and this is what started the crucial disconnect between the PF SS and actual PITCH.
It shouldn't be outrageous at all. The crew actually were unaware of the situation for the entire duration, not just precious seconds. And when the saw "crazy speeds", that didn't trigger the UAS memory list. The ECAM told them of the reversion to alternate law, but somehow the discipline and shared responsibility between PF & PNF wasn't there that night.
Original quotes by Lyman - The St Elmo's fire is not analyzed, the PNF statement is given as "Proof" and The additional heat in the cockpit is not enlarged, and The Smell is allowed to be proven by PNF again, a known authority on Nasal powers...
SEF is a pretty well known phenomenon when you get into clouds surrounding CBs, what is there to analyze? The heat in the cockpit is warm air suddenly drawn in from the outside, momentarily overpowering the environmental control system. With the warm air came the smell of ozone. It is a pretty common and unique smell. Today, you can actually purchase Ozone perfume by Sergio Tacchini to get a whiff of how ozone smells.
Original quote by Lyman - "What's that". Again the proof is a good guess…
Could be one of two things - Stall Warning or Ice Crystals hitting the windshield.
Original quote by Lyman - BEA is relying on PPRuNe to vett their analysis.
I think it would be better said this way, "After nine threads, PPRuNe
was relying on the BEA's Final Report to confirm their analysis."