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Old 30th Jul 2012, 03:51
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swh

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Originally Posted by cxorcist
They have yet to build an aircraft which can carry full pax and decent cargo and go anywhere near the published range (ie 330, 340, 380).
The design payload for any aircraft made by Boeing or Airbus does not include any cargo, it is purely a nominal load based a paper configuration (Boeing uses 210 lb (95 kg) per passenger with baggage).

The design payload of the 744 is 416 passengers paper configuration (39,520 kg) with a design range of around 7,200 nm. The 744 should be able to do ORD, JFK, YYZ, DFW. It is flat out doing YVR, LAX and SFO even with the reduced seat counts Cathay use.

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/sta...47_payload.pdf

To carry ANY cargo, the seat count is reduced or the range, they do both on the 744.

It is amusing you mention the technology difference, a long standing Captain converting to the 777 fleet recently from the Airbus made an interesting observation of the 777, "Its a dumb blond, beautiful body, but no brains". That is someone who has seen both sides, unlike yourself.

Ask how many of the 777 pilots know how the 777 VNAV actually works, or how the smart radar paints nothing with cells everywhere.

For evidence, how many successful Airbus P2F conversion programs have there been?
How many CX/KA BCFs have been destroyed so far ?

They were a great investment.
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