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I still haven't worked out how the existing routes (eg the XC route which starts at Bournemouth, but the wires aren't there until Southampton) will operate, but that's another one for PTDRUNe.”
Bournemouth to Southampton (and up to London) is electrified, on the third rail (DC?) system. Cross country diesels run from Bournemouth to Basingstoke on it then branch off towards Reading.
Replacing the third rail with overhead wires on London-Bournemouth (and on to Weymouth) has been proposed, but is certainly not high on the priority list.
Quote: “Then again, Greening thinks Birmingham is in "the north", so maybe there is a job for Silver in the government?“
Typical, northern girl “gone native” on joining the metropolitan elite/establishment. “North of Watford Gap” and all that…..
Quote: “And you are using the classic New Labour diversion tactic of countering a sound argument with irrelevant information. Just what do the Scottish Highlands have to do with the facts and requirements of siting a new London airport? I suppose you will also claim that Moscow is the least densely populated city in the whole world, by including Siberia in your calculations.
The crux of the matter is that the S.E. is woefully short of real estate, more so than any major country in Europe, and the siting of a large part of London out in the estuary can only help to ease the overcrowding that has been caused by New Labour.”
None of this is relevant to whether an airport should, could, or would be built. The fact is that it
won’t be. It really is not a difficult proposition to grasp!
Dear oh dear, you are
obsessed with New Labour! Forget about them, they’re history!
Re-read your post of 13 July (#661), in it
you mentioned the population density of the UK, not of England, not of the southeast, and not of the Thames Valley.
A reminder to save you scrolling back:
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You are rather forgetting that one of the MAIN attractions of Silver-Boris, is that it is NOT on dry land. The UK is, thanks to the efforts of New Labour to bury the UK under 500 million people, the most densely populated nation in Europe.”
Your argument was demolished. Now re-read your post of 18 July this (#682), in it
you moved the goalposts from “UK” to “England”, having read some newspaper reports on census data.
Another reminder to save you scrolling back:
Quote: Your data is way off. Apologist New Labour data - anything to deflect attention from the truth.
The D.M. says England is second densest, after Malta.
Record levels of immigration lead to jam-packed England as population rockets to 56m | Mail Online
The D.T. did say England was the densest in Europe after Malta, but now says we are third densest, after Malta and Holland.
England is most crowded country in Europe - Telegraph
Census 2011: population surges by 3.7 million in a decade - Telegraph”
Oh well, you know what they say: never let the fact get in the way of a good story, or in your case, a good argument!
Still, it makes for a good debate.
Quote: “Yes, but some of us were saying this 15 years ago. Had our concerns been acted upon, we would now have a world-class airport in the estuary. As it is, we have a floundering whale that cannot cope with the olympics, and it is making the UK a laughing-stock of the developed world. Nearly every major trading nation has a decent capital airport and some decent TGV lines that run from it, except for the UK.”
Indeed the MP for Heston and Isleworth, Richard Reader Harris, suggested it back in 1958. Doesn’t make it the right course of action. In that time, we could also have had a world class airport at Heathrow. That is at least is still possible, if a few fingers are pulled out, and soon.