Jockspice,
I certainly meant no offence to anyone in the Junglie world,as I understand it it is precisely because of their complexity that joe public isn't let lose on them as well as the fact that they have no negative disengage on the RH,which may entail a slightly embarrassing and unplanned sortie while groundrunning. My point was meant to highlight the differences in professionalism between service and non-service personnel (not including ex members) who as we all know can and invariably do come up with the necessary goods when the chips are down, despite the ballaches which we all have to deal with in this Brave New World.