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Old 11th July 2012 | 08:47
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Wirbelsturm
 
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Count, once again a lesson in 'ludicrous cherry picking'. Thank you.

A little thread creep if I may, I will come back at the bottom.

taking two days leave off of you and shafting future average holiday pay supplements.
Shafting? Not really it was an agreed move by the majority Pilot group. We were balloted for our views and response then action was taken. You do remember balloting don't you? Where you ask the member majority and then act on the results???? Of course not, BASSA made all the decisions in the previous dispute didn't they.

it was actually a brilliant result
???????????????

In what world was it a 'brilliant result'? The entire dispute was about reducing the crewing levels by one and employing the CSD in the premium cabins. Guess what! We are still operating one down with the CSD ona trolley. All the other niff-naff around was BASSA toys out of the cot and then being given back when their temper tantrums had calmed down. The fact that BASSA blindly discounted the inception of MF whilst concentrating on getting their 'bruvvas' re-instated was the biggest crime of all for their 'Legacy' fleet members.

The cost savings to BA with the growth of MF are growing exponentially year on year. Thanks to BASSA.

Remember the "fight for survival" was caused by an artificially created record loss following a record profit the year before.
You refused to look at the forecasts, the figures and the analysis of an independant, third party economic powerhouse and still you believe your own rhetoric?

Since the treacherous actions of BA pilots towards their cabin crew colleagues
Also the treacherous actions of the ground staff, loaders, checkin staff, baggage handlers, engineers, back office staff, Waterside staff, call centre staff, IT staff, HR staff etc. etc. etc. But, as we all do the same job in our little metal tube , pilots are, as always, the only ones who 'tipped the balance'.

Legacy cabin crew are more than happy with their outcome even if promotion opportunities have dried up
This is quite sad to read, the last clutches of the drowning man at any straw available. Legacy fleet are fuming at every new route opportunity that passes over to MF. The abject inability of BASSA to recognise the frustration within it's members is startling to say the least. BASSA delivered cost savings to BA well above and beyond that required by not negotiating MF.

At least the Legacy crew have not emulated the mistakes of the clever pilots, by going over to an hourly rate.
By the law of diminishing returns they don't need to. Enjoy it while you can, all the lucrative LH routes and the future fleet acquisitions are headed to MF anyway.

So chaps you need to worry about your own patch
We are thank you.

Back to the thread:

BMI are bringing three long haul hulls into the collective (330),
Unfortunately not for long. Those hulls are due for lease expiration in October. What they are bringing are 7 Club bed fitted MH A321's which can be used on routes such as Cairo and Tel Aviv, which are currently served by the 777. This will free up some 777 rotations to be used on other routes where slot/route duplication with BMI exists. Expansion of the LH route means expansion of crewing opportunities.

Bidline for the BMI pilots is something they will have to use to see the benefits for themselves. The system of random trip scraping to allow relative BMI seniority bidding at the bottom of the MSL is emenantly fair IMHO. The biggest factor this brings to the table is lifestyle. If a BMI pilot wishes to move outside of the Airbus onto the other fleets then they will take their place at the bottom of the bidding list. The choice become theirs.

The 15 LH commands over 3 years will be offset by increased capacity on the LH route structure. If giving away 15 LH commands is required to generate LH expansion requiring 45 new commands then they bias is in favour of the BA pilots anyway. The agreement effectively guarantees BMI pilots 1 command in 100. There will be, at the start, a few who gain advantage over some of the junior FO's but it will only be in the short term as the BMI pilots will not be type frozen but the BA DEP's will.

On complettion of freeze the BA DEP can move across to their fleet of choice knowing that they will be a higher bid seniority.

Looking at snapshots is, generally, misinformative. Always look at the bigger picture to gain a better oversight.

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