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De_flieger, ah been waiting to see if yer commented on the
Lowdown post... perhaps yer away ?..... anyway, back-to-it..
"...the NASA proof fer AGW..."
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The NASA details are at the link I provided earlier -
Climate Change: Evidence They discuss in a lot more detail than there is room for here, the evidence for global warming and why the scientific consensus is that it is due to man-made CO2 emissions. They also cite all the relevant papers, and a lot of them are freely accessible so you can read the methods involved and how they came to their conclusions...
De_flieger, just to speed things up fer this dumb old hill farmer could you post some quotes from the "relevant papers" seems ah caint find them...
I did seen there were this AGW 'proof' shown - "The disappearing snowcap of Mount Kilimanjaro" .... proof of AGW.. Hmmm..
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...There is a section that specifically discusses solar radiance and how it was involved in the Little Ice Age you refer to, in causing the Little Ice Age and when it ended. It also discusses the measured changes in solar radiance over recent years and how there has been a very slight decline in solar radiance in the past 30 years, which should have a cooling effect. Changes to the solar output have been conclusively shown to not be linked to the current warming that is being observed - the solar radiance trend has been a decrease at the same time global temperatures have increased. Regarding volcanic ash distribution, that is another thing that is measured and taken into account - if you look at the graph on the previous page you can see the brown graph that shows volcanic aerosol levels, and it has markings for a couple of key events, major eruptions such as at Mt Pinatubo...
De_flieger, do all that mean there is an agreement that the worlds 'average' temperature has been getting warmer since we came out of the mini ice age in the mid 1800's ? That there would be agreement with at least this part of the Reid Bryson comments ? -
"...the temperature going up... ...It has gone up since the early 1800s, before the Industrial Revolution, because we’re coming out of the Little Ice Age..."
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...The internet has given back the POWER TO THE PEOPLE..
- It sure has! But at some point you also need to consider the source. Ever read the comments on a YouTube video, and compared them to scientific journals that publish online?? NASA, NOAA and the National Academies Press (publishers for the US National Academy Of Science, among others - heres a book they publish, and make available to read online for free:
Advancing the Science of Climate Change ) are just a few of the large number of worldwide scientific organisations in broad agreement on the causes of climate change. In response you are citing a 2007 article published in the
Wisconsin Energy Co-operative News....it goes on to discuss the Great Wisconsin Cheese Festival
, so perhaps they arent at the forefront of climatic research. Their website states that they are a magazine "published on behalf of the Wisconsin Electric Cooperative Association by Cooperative Network. Established in 1940, the publication continues to serve Wisconsin’s rural areas, but it also circulates in other parts of the state. "...
De_flieger, what on earth do it matter where the Reid Bryson comments were reported ?
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...The hysterics, as you describe them, do noone any good - grossly exaggerated claims only damage the causes they are interested in, but at the same time individuals such as Andrew Bolt arent exactly balanced either. If a Labour Government made seatbelts and airbags mandatory he would claim that it was an infringement of individual rights and car crashes toughen you up anyway
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De_flieger, Bolt covers politics and any other subjects that interests him, I mainly follow his AGW coverage. I'm yet to find where Bolt has been proven wrong on his AGW reporting and commentary - perhaps you can show me where he were wrong..
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