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Old 8th Jul 2012, 02:08
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Point taken OK, and I had posted a graph of the pitch moment for the Viper a year or so ago. Flew at least two jets that could be "deeply stalled", but pushing forward and keeping wings level with rudder would enable a prompt recovery. In the Viper, we had about a ten deg AoA range that did not allow a nose down effect using full elevator. The 'bus folks claimed that the cee gee for AF447 was well forward of the allowable value, so the jet had a positive nose down pitch moment through out the drill.

I go with PJ a 100% on a few drills flying the jet without all the FD's and otto help. There's no need to be macho and "prove" your manhood/womanhood. Just demonstrate you can fly the damned jet without all the gizmos.

Finally, I re-iterate my instense dislike for the term "protection" versus "limit". For some reason, I found it easier to remember the jet's "limits" than how it was supposed to "protect" me.
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