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Old 7th July 2012 | 18:21
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Automatic climb thrust selection is supposed to select a climb thrust which should be the same or lower than take off thrust
The A300-600 was the first aircraft where we encountered increasing thrust at acceleration height, Airbus solved this by limiting the thrust reduction to 25% OR CLIMB THRUST, I'm pretty sure that Embraer does the same thing.

On the 737, I presume that you guys are using Laptops utilizing SCAP compliant software.... but what happens when you just use the FMS, will it give you an assumed temperature lower than climb thrust?

derate 2, max assumed, improved climb
Strange combination

the point that the aircraft reaches 35 feet will be much closer to the departure end of the runway.
True

will be performed at a thrust setting that may be well below minimum climb thrust and will therefore reach acceleration height further away from the airport.
True, (aircraft dependent)

I am also not getting any real benefit from the improved climb
You are not getting any benefit as you are trading the increased weight associated with the improved climb for lower thrust settings.

Gut feel would suggest that if I use a takeoff thrust setting equivalent to minimum climb thrust and climb to acceleration height closer to the airport
And if you combine this with improved climb you will get an even better result.

Remember that you are concerned about perceived noise levels rather than the amount of noise that you are actually making, so increasing distance from the recipient and limiting the exposure are the keys.

You could try searching the community noise document for the 737, or downloading the Boeing training course on the subject.

Good Luck.

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