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Old 6th Jul 2012, 23:14
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Genghis the Engineer
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CAP 804...

Part E Personal Flying Logs and recording of Flight Time
This Part sets out the requirements and guidance for Log annotation. The Part-FCL and Air
Navigation Order requirements are listed below so that pilots have the information needed to
maintain records that meet both European and national requirements.
1 General information
Flight crew logs must be kept in accordance with the provisions of Article 79 of the
UK ANO as amended and must also conform to Part-FCL (AMC FCL.050 refers). Part-
FCL states that flight time shall be recorded in a manner specified by the Authority.
79 (1) Every member of the flight crew of an aircraft registered in the United
Kingdom and every person who engages in flying for the purpose of
qualifying for the grant or renewal of a flight crew licence under this Order
or a flight crew licence issued by the CAA under Part-FCL must keep a
personal flying log in which the following information must be recorded:
(a) the name and address of the holder of the log;
(b) detailed information about the holder's licence (if any) to act as a
member of the flight crew of an aircraft; and
(c) the name and address of the holder's employer (if any).
(2) Detailed information about each flight during which the holder of the log
acted either as a member of the flight crew of an aircraft or for the purpose
of qualifying for the grant or renewal of a licence under this Order must be
recorded in the log as soon as reasonably practicable after the end of each
flight.
(3) The information recorded in accordance with paragraph (2) must include:
(a) the date, the places at which the holder of the log embarked on and
disembarked from the aircraft and the time spent during the course of
a flight when the holder was acting in either capacity;
(b) the type and registration marks of the aircraft;
(c) the capacity in which the holder acted in flight;
(d) information about any special conditions under which the flight was
conducted, including night flying and instrument flying; and
(e) information about any test or examination undertaken by the holder of
the log whilst in flight.
(4) Information about any test or examination undertaken whilst in a flight
simulator must be recorded in the log, including:
(a) the date of the test or examination;
(b) the type of simulator;
(c) the capacity in which the holder acted; and
(d) the nature of the test or examination.
But a little later it says:-

2.1.2 Operational conditions, namely if the operation takes place at night, or is conducted under instrument flight rules.
and then a bit later:

3.5 PICUS (Pilot-in-command under supervision)
Provided that the method of supervision is acceptable to the authority, a co-pilot may
log as PIC flight time flown as PICUS, when all the duties and functions of PIC on that
flight were carried out, in such a way that the intervention of the PIC in the interest
of safety was not required.
A remarks column will be provided to give details of specific functions e.g. SPIC,
PICUS, instrument flight time* etc.
* Instrument flight time is the time when flying by sole reference to instruments.
So CAP 804 appears to contradict itself as well - switching between IF and IFR, when they are not the same thing.

Meself, I've always logged "sole reference to instruments" - which I *think* is what it says in the front of my elderly (and some distance away so I can't check) Airtour logbook.

But since different bits of the regs now seem, schitzophrenically, to refer not quite interchangeably to IFR and IF, it seems to me that I need to be logging both to be on the safe side. That would seem to be the only way, now, to be sure I'll stay legal.

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