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Old 5th Jul 2012, 06:46
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Clandestino
 
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Thanks for the pointing towards Air Caraibe memo

It seems that initially, not just the pilots but also the safety pilot of Air Caraibe believed that stall warnings were undue. Is there full report on the incident? While the crew might have believed stall warning was false, it is obvious they kept AoA under control.

Originally Posted by lyman
I think that the original questioner, months ago, was really asking if "there were any ordinary civilian training aircraft with S/S controls?"
Cirrus SR20. We don't have ordinary civilian training aircraft with FBW and independent sidesticks because it would be far too expensive to retrofit something like C172 with hydraulic powered controls, air data computers, inertial reference and top it up with FBW electronics.

Originally Posted by Machinbird
From this, it can be seen that the peak roll rates exceeded 10 degrees per second. This roll rate in an oscillation would not be ignored by a pilot and he would be unable to "look through" it to the larger picture.
Nice picture. Could you, pretty please, extend it 30 seconds further?

Originally Posted by Machinbird
BEA has not yet provided spoiler and aileron position data, so analysis of the causal aspect is not yet possible.
Well, if it doesn't make it to the final report, you can always use page 112 of interim 3: lateral DFDR parameters. Ailerons and spoilers staunchly followed the sidesticks, their periods of fluttering like mad were occasionally interrupted by full LWD deflection with not much apparent effect, as expected in stall.
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