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Old 4th Jul 2012, 19:03
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SilsoeSid

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Silsoe. Now go and google the population numbers for N Yorks, Cumbria and Lincolnshire, counties currently without dedicated air support. The figure is not far off your 3%. Add the far end of Cornwall and those remote bits of Wales and even (dare I say), Kent where one might be able to say air support will take longer than 20 mins and at the worst NPAS can say there is no change.....
Handy, nope, not quite sure what point you're trying to make, but if it's the point that N.Yorks, Cumbria and Linclonshire will now be covered by the 20 minuters, whereas before they weren't, that isn't only incorrect but it also isn't quite the point of the new NPAS (NNPAS) is it? (savings not being the point anymore!)

Previously the counties could have asked for mutual aid from a force with air support and the reaction time then would have been exactly the same as it is now and will be in the future. No bases are being created to give a closer more rapid service to these counties are there? Therefore, no efficiency increase.

How much would/does a mutual aid task cost be per hour? How much will these counties be paying into NNPAS for 365/24/7 cover? Will these forces be calling air support purely to get their moneys worth, because whereas before they paid nothing for air support, now they will be and they must have to justify the expenditure to the taxpayer.

"Dear Cumbrian taxpayer,
Your Council Tax Police Force contributions never used to pay for air support cover. In the future, they will be regardless if an aircraft is used or not. Shouldn't you now be asking the authorities how things have changed so much for the worse and why they now believe that your county has the need for air support, when in the past they didn't "


As for the figures asked for earlier;

N.Yorkshire 599,700
Cumbria 496,200
Lincolnshire 584,538
Total = 1,680,438


Looking at coconutty's previous map post, Cumbria still isn't covered in 20 mins, so thanks for highlighting that the hugely popular counties of Cornwall and Cumbria, (the populations of which increase immensely during holiday periods), equate to at least 1% of the (normal) population that aren't within 20 mins.

For example, in one town alone, "Around 22,000 people live in Newquay, but the population can increase to 100,000 or more in the summer."
...and for the Lake District, "on average per year about 15.5 million people arrive here".

Considering mispers is a huge chunk of Police Aviation tasking, isn't this a bit of an oversight by the 'suits' at NNPAS?
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