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Old 3rd Jul 2012, 13:51
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I wonder how pilots work departures from VFR-only airports when the cloudbase is a bit low...
me too...the procedure is called VIFR and is quite unofficial...

and Germany has AFAIK prosecuted some people for various versions of illegal VFR.
Well, the question is always WHO determines VFR or visibility and cloud height... if there is not a meteorologist or the equivalent, then the proof is hard to find (of departing IFR).

However this issue is a pretty annoying one and just why the German ATC is so against it (and has been against it for man, many years -> my dad was a german ATCO) I donīt know. IFR in uncontrolled airspace is not a magical thing...
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