Bungle, read my post. I made the donation to help Joe, it was not made to AIPA. If the money was not used to help Joe I expect it back. If it was used to assist Joe then good that is what it was for. The email with the time frame apparently was only sent out to members of AIPA. I am not for the reasons I stated; therefore i was unaware of it until someone told me. I just wish someone in AIPA had the manners to reply to me.