aerodynamicists usually are not pilots so of coarse grassy valley thought you had it backwards, I did too. We all know how the horizontal stabilizer and elevator works. It has a down thrust to make the aircraft stable. Speed up and the down thrust increases and brings the nose up. I think it makes it confusing when talking to pilots in your aerodyamicist way of looking at it. We need to keep it simple so even we know what you are talking about. Just a suggestion to keep us simple pilot guys in the loop.