'sactly, MJ. Maintaining good relations with the locals is pretty important for expeditionary diving and in fact it was a local lobsterman who told us exactly where to drop our shot for the E49. It goes without saying that, quite apart from the moral considerations of desacrating war graves, taking stuff from wrecks doesn't leave much for future generations of divers to discover. It's very much frowned on in my club and BSAC generally. That said, I can't speak for the old and the bold...apparently tyre irons were a standard part of dive equipment in the early days of scuba, as the portholes, bells and other relics decorating many a clubhouse will testify!