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Old 1st Jun 2012, 15:22
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Lyman
 
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I am not sure your point. If it is to emphasize the lack of proper procedures, you have. Something is missing, and it is exquisitely salient. The speech is given after the passage of time. Without a deliberate attempt to frame his comments in the context of the pilots situation it is misleading, to say the least.

Naturally, I will claim it is deliberate. It is.

He uses terms not in existence at the time of the crash. His summary is selectively exclusive, and presumptuous. Human nature being what it is, virtually everyone reading his text will absorb it in ignorance of its subtle purpose.

There was discussion of Pitch and Altitude, and immediately. The determination of UAS was made after 447 was on the bottom, I propose the crew were unaware of it until seventeen seconds after its appearance, and longer than that after its actual start. This presently can not be discounted, and bias and passion do not count as evidence......

Everything that is officially released, including data favorable to the crew,
must be received with profound distaste, and without prior thought....Absorb it as if it is toxic, and deadly, not as the Press release that is intended...


imho.

Who has selectively analyzed the DFDR to exclude the excursions present prior to a/p loss were due turbulence, and not the autoflight reacting to bs data? If so, the PF's situation becomes a little more explicit? Yes or no, where is that in Boudain's/Bouilliard's text? Where is "Nine prior Unreliable SPEED events occurred in a cluster less than one year pre-event?" Does he present the record of PROBE problems? The poor record of compliance? The utter lack of training that would have made his comments moot? Hmmm........

lyman

"IMO that could prove if it was (initially) unintended"..... Thank you A33Zab.

Anyone else resent the attempt to be led around by the ear as an errant schoolboy, by those with an incredible financial investment in the outcome of this investigation?

"Internists know everything, and do nothing. Surgeons know nothing, and do everything. Pathologists know everything, and do everything, but too late."

William Nolen, MD

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