This thread should be required reading instead of foggles training - Certainly for Robinsons anyway.
It seems there are two sides to this: those that want to stick to 'the book' and those, like me, (and AnFi?) who think 'the book' is flawed and will do what ever they think fit to not enter a cloud.
Rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men. (Douglas Bader, British WWII air ace)