And Goblin what are you blokes going to do about it? There is such a thing a people power, are you blokes just going to let this happen or are you starting to launch a fight? Like us 89ers you can walk off the job, and stay off the job, try to replace engineers, pilots, ground staff, CC, etc over a weekend, over a week, over a month, over six months. You cannot. Yes we were just the pilots, but bring the whole box and dice in, get someone who can lead, and you might just save the company, in fact run the company yourselves, give 110% and you might just have yourselves a very viable company. Lie down and you blokes are finished, do you really want to work for the Arabs? In your own country? Seems to me you blokes have already accepted that your company is buggered, how about you grow a pair, and start fighting for it? You saw the result when we walked off, not proud of it but the country really suffered, imagine if all of you did the same thing to save the company, actually the ball is right in your court. Use it.