tiger88 many thanks for your help. I already have my PPL and not yet started ATPL ground school. I dont have enough hours to start any CPL training so would require the hour building as well but surprised to hear from 0-fATPL the whole thing will come in at under 50k! I've heard good things about them and have fired off an email. Does anyone know whether the career development loan can be used towards funding this sort of route? Many thanks for the help