Just saw Oval3Holer's last post which speaks to a point I'm trying to make. Even if there were a group mentality for those under HKAOA the US pilots interests are lost there. We haven't been on-shored and we are still dealing with HKG labour law. We don't have a collective bargaining agreement, and we don't have anyone to negotiate our interests as it is in Australia and Canada. I feel like our interests are secondary to the majority in HKG.