I'll just make a general observation if I may and then ask a simple, I think, question of the Movers here. Not pointing fingers at anyone or trying to make anyone look better than any others.
When I was in I had two "trades"... Firstly as a Rock and second as a Loadie. In both cases if there were lazy b
ds, people who made us look bad, simply didn't, (want to ), fit in, etc. the lads themselves sorted out the offender. Not violence necessarily, but "strong words" would have been had.
It's clear from this conversation that not all Movers are bad and many had/have pride in what they do... Do Movers not see the incompetents/jobsworth types in their midst or, if they do, do they not wish to stop them from making the trade as a whole look bad?