Well, i am training in a 152, my instructor is 'at a guess' 17 stone and i am 13 stone, we quite often have full fuel onboard too, I can only guess that this much exceeds the 152's MTOW?
Just a little bit. (it goes on all round the country and has done since the aircraft were imported, but its not the done thing to talk about it, cause folk get quite upset.)
The fact is that if the statistics were available for the training 2 seater fleet in the UK and how often they take off over weight I suspect there would be compleling evidence to increase C150/152' and PA38's MTOW by a good 60-100 kg.
(With 17 and 13 stone, they probably *are* the center of gravity.
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