Oceanic: Fair enough, I'll retract the neck.
Perhaps the following link will give you some idea of what I have been trying to say.
<a href="http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=5&t=000857" target="_blank">http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=5&t=000857</a>