@PJ2....I cannot accept that a sustained pitch-up was the result of inadvertent stick-handling, not, at least, without also accepting that the most basic principles of high-altitude, swept-wing flight and the resultant attempts at manual control were for some reason not understood.
Let's be more careful. There was no "Sustained Pitch UP" (Re: STICK). There was an overall average of NOSE UP, as seen from the results, but the inputs were not without interruption, and to claim so must be by mistake, yes? Many Nose Down inputs, changes in PITCH UP and DOWN, etc. The initial input was NU, followed by several Nose Down inputs. It can be inferred from such language that the PF set and maintained a climb, only. NO. What can be concluded, at least by me, is that there was handling that took different iterations. The climb was not monolithic, it was more haphazard, and resulted imo from a lack of awareness of VS, PITCH, and A/S, all of which were at different times, wrong, accurate and/or NCD. Or BLANK.
Yes, I meant to attribute "do nothing" to you, but had forgotten who posted it, my bad.... I was one who knew precisely what you meant, and regret that others made such a deliberate misunderstanding of your words. Clearly, with an a/c rolling at 4.5 degrees/second and nose down, Input was required, as evidenced by the work of the handling pilot. My previous comment re: a/ploss and the PF needing to be instantly prepared stands, but to me does not conflict with your counsel for patience, and calm......
with respect always
Last edited by Lyman; 2nd May 2012 at 22:19.