they are BOTH higher than normal risk occurences that should be kept to a minimum.
right you are there Wiz. I wish we lived in a ideal world but we don't therefore it's all about acceptable risk and it's management.
We can go on and crack each other's heads open with sharp rhetoric however the point of this discussion would go amiss, methinks. How bout exposure of the paying folks to a higher risks during training flights? Don't you think passengers have the right to know the level of the risk exposure? I bet if it was compulsory to inform passengers about training flights no revenue pax would ever buy a ticket on a commercial flight with a cadet under training. You would agree it's safer to train pilots outside commercial operations and once ready release them to fly commercially. Well, again I wish we lived in the ideal world. Whatever you do as a skipper is you call what matters is the outcome.
