As regards Pakistan, no expats = no experts. Their appalling fatal accident record proves it. They cannot fly planes safely on their own. But they will keep going. Anyone daft enough to roll the dice must accept the odds. Ditto with Korean, African " carriers", and a host of Russian and Eastern European airlines. Not forgetting Mexico and many airlines south of the Mexican border. Including Cubana. Oh and a few legacy Far Eastern airlines too. As for Indonesia......Yep, flying is not a safe business folks.