Quote: "FDF - more one we've done on other threads, but considering the challenges of getting a 3rd runway at LHR, I'd rate the chances of getting a fourth within the next 20 years as somewhere below the nil chance mentioned above."
Agreed, jabird, hence reference to the flying pigs, but realisticly a 4th runway is needed, and as it is taking so long to get a 3rd built, we might as well include a 4th, else we will be going through all this nonsense again.
Quote:"On the general subject of another runway in the London area:
London area airports (LHR/LGW/LCY/LTN/STN/SEN) movements:
2001: 1.075m
2011: 1.072m
In the next 10-20 years we will have airlines having to comply with carbon trading, and the UK government having to meet its Climate Change Act 2008 requirement to cut emissions of green house gas emissions by 80% below 1990 levels by 2050.
In addition we have seen a shift towards larger aircraft, with turboprops and E135/145 types now rare at Heathrow while A380 movements are increasing.
On top of that I can't see any prospect of fuel prices doing anything other than a continuous upward trend.
There's no need for additional runways.
NS"
Not so, NorthSouth, clearly there is, you need to look at the longterm, because it takes a millenium to get expansion approved. Aircraft are becoming increasingly quieter and cleaner, there is a growing growing demand and need for people to travel, there is increasing prosperity in "emerging" markets which will bring more travellers - business and leisure.
Quote: "You forgot to include London/Ashford and London/Oxford in your 'London' list of airports."
...and "London West" (BOH)?