safety and CRM? where did it go
i stumbled on this post from the AEROFLOT A320 take-off one, that was an eye opener.
some posters there shouting for name and shame lol and Ruski Sergei says
ah its ok, we always go with snow, have no problem in Tupolev...it blow off
read the whole lot posts here (hours)
i think LTD or any crew making such observations are correct.
Only LTD knows if the IB crew's 'wave back' was seen as flippant or was purely 'hitting' on the lady F/O? we were not there.
we were not there to really see the actual weather happening.
the 'snow on their wings event' IS publicly out there, so are ATC tapes, obtainable CCTV from the ramp and terminal cameras yet many here show indignation at a fellow colleagues genuine concern for a fellow crew and HIS passengers over a no-brain no-go in-the-book item which still left unheeded in the recent past has downed aircraft and kills.
i saw a post on a cruise line site titled Italiano's showing off when
Costa Concordia did a 'fly-by' of the island (which 2nd time round ended in
her having a Titanicesque collision with charted rocks) and they got all indignant on that site when it was suggested that Italians can be 'macho' and show off's...how racist! they cried...
For the record Italians have a wonderful sea-faring history but they do have a vastly different culture from Brits or Yanks.
Our years of CRM are also now being used in the cruise ship industry, as is SOP's but
pretty much of that didn't happen for the Costa lot though that night,
but a positioning off-duty captain on-board was noted stepped up admirably when he saw how it all fell apart during the abandon ship process or lack of.
do i see some Costa scenario v.v with the scenario laid out here?
maybe.
LTD made no further comment on here because i am sure he was
advised not too. did he file? I bet he did.
likewise the IB crew too no comment as would be prudent.
do you post on here in the first place, hmmm up to you init!
you say on Facebook you are bored at work or you think the Boss is abit
naff and bingo you get the sack. hey ho, that's the interweb for you and
has a spectacular effect as shown here in 26 pages.
personally have never seen a webpost degenerate and become highly embarrassing for the profession. i am quite shocked by
some rhetoric.
arrogance and hysteria in loads of posts by holders of ATPL's ? phew! do you speak to your peers or sybling crews like that in the F/Deck still?
Gosh i hope not.
Blimey how many posters have blood clots hurtling towards them lol...
i was very interested in the outcome though here as no doubt you all were.
Last edited by rog747; 18th Apr 2012 at 07:23.