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Old 13th Apr 2012, 16:51
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The 200 hour pilot is not contra indicated (preferred?) if the format is taught without bias, of any kind. In a sense, traditional pilot training is in many ways a negative v/v fluid exchange of command. Is it patience, then, until all the old ones go?
I like you lyman, you are interesting. If I may conceptualise your comment and hope that I have got it correctly - would I be right in assuming that you were saying that if the 200hr guys and gals approach this interfacery with an uncluttered mind, free of bias or greater depths of absolutes and worldly knowledge, then they (s/he+machine) can get along - `till ode fogies `av slipped mortal coil, never mind surly bonds uv Earth.

Maybe, but - See Rule No.1 and Number 2. above lest, the ground rise up and smite them. ok?

Automation is a tool, you would no way give up to an automated diety anymore than you would trust your tin opener to plan, prepare and cook a banquet for 15 people.

If, if, if the `lil `ol aeroplane did what it wanted and A L W A Y S ended up landing beautifully at destination all on its little lonesome, come hell or high water - then yes-

but until this has a) happened and b) been proven to happen 100% of the time then the best we young `uns (who just look old) can do, is steer the wee bairns in the right direction and hope that the desire to live is instilled into them in such a way that even the cosy rosy flightdeck won`t lull them into a false sense of security. Remember phrases like Garbage in Garbage out referring to computors like the FMS - is a man factor. Remember, things go wrong but that certain machines - mentioning no names, like the A320 Airbus, will not only tell you what is going on but also make optional suggestions on what to do next, backed up by a seriously structured training program like the one you get on your type rating course which in itself is backed up by all your ATPL training and all your CPL training and all your PPL training and all the flying experience to boot, including loads of experience gained flying aeroplanes the pilot (she or he) has a most composite time working through all the problems as they have studied the aeroplane which will do what it is told to do, or, made to do. Pilots of said machine should always be one step ahead of events so that automagicary - if it decides not to work, can be overriden by the pilot by taking it out of Managed mode and putting it into Selected mode thereby, choosing to press buttons to tell the aeroplane exactly what to do (as it has misbehaved, it must be told off) and failing that lop everything off and hand fly the thing yourself - you can do it in other aircraft and you can damn well do it in this and other aircraft still - ad nauseam. Just as they know when it is best to cross the road by looking very carefully for traffic, like lorries and cars, so it is the case in the swish jetty whirry machine with computers - a toy..
Computors are there to help you (a little bit) to satiate human`s need to be lazy b-----ds. Would you trust a stranger who was directing you while you walk fast towards a brick wall while you were blindfolded? So, you cannot therefore, expect to go hurtling along at 8 miles a minute by a bit of kit, without monitoring the whole shabang.

If it doesn`t work properly then downgrade its authority, just as they do with humans. YOU have the power to do this (as pilot) as you are the boss, the human-boss, the president/chairperson - the pilot, the brains and mind of the aeroplane. The aeroplane does not care who is flying it nor what is flying it, it cares about nothing but responds symbiotically to very sensible piloting.

Sure, you can fly Auto-Cento per Cento all the time, no worries, but should something go beyond non-normal ops then you will have to work for a living. There is less interface between the controls than conventional aircraft as fly-by-wire is all the rage and glass cockpits help by stuffing all the info into a nice ergonomic square for you so - you don`t even have to move your eyes, much. Also, feel has all but gone too - as pilots inputs go to the flying surfaces, through computors and via wires with little or no feedback, synthetic? No, not even that, there is simply nothing there at all, in feedback, except for a slight forward pressure induced just before touchdown - thats a tiny bit of feedback for a 4 hour flight..

It is YOUR machine that you are playing with, not a toy that is in command of YOU.
And, all the time it is still a great and beautiful aeroplane, which you FLY, so don`t let a tantrum of a bit of plastic mess that up for you - take over, quit playing Xbox commanders - and fly., it. Downgrading from automagicary means, the machine becomes an - aeroplane, again. And, Aeroplanes are flown by pilots who have learned piloting skills from other (instructor) pilots and from "learning to fly"

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