Amazing how quickly a sensible thread is high-jacked and condescended into personal bickering and childish tirades by people who have too much time on their hands. It is imperative that SAA is not only kept solvent but competitive. Those with real solutions to the problems that have bedeviled the organisation should make presentations to the appropriate quarters or start their own airlines. Every airline has its flaws and those who have nothing but criticism towards SAA should look for somewhere else to vent their frustrations or take up a healthy sport like fly fishing or golfing.