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Old 5th Apr 2012, 23:14
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greenedgejet
 
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Ctc only way (unless you are very experienced on type) into ezy and many other uk airlines is the truth for the past 4 years. Monarch prefer cadets and rarely take on experienced non rated crews. Oxford / are similar to ctc but seem to have slightly higher standards though costs are extremely high.

GB£ 120k was not inflated it was info from cadets 4 years ago. Just look at the ctc arl deal with ba and you will see actual costs are far more than 84k initial outlay.


Cloud 9.5 mentions folk from other backgrounds but states these are ctc hold pool. Also they had to pay for TR with ctc and more through flexi crew scheme. Ezy did look at high hour on type pilots late last year due to over reliance on cadets of late.

Truth is many ctc cadets were abused on 6 month contracts on min wages then laid off and told not to apply elsewhere in case ctc wanted them to work again.

One cadet managed to escape to aer lingus at the time. Good on them.

All ctc cadets were given the answers to the a320 type rating papers unofficially after death by CBT. They were given more sim sessions for Lst than the trss guys. None were allowed to borrow fcom or take paper tigers home for revision usage. Some that failed LST were given further training and re tests.

The reason Tcx send their cadets to flybe is due to the lack of airmanship and experience cadets have. Being keen, bright and loaded is not enough.

How many Flybe captains have joined ezy over past 4 years? That route has been blocked by these airline/school deals.

Thankfully qatar do not use this system.

Most cadets are poorly trained in minimum hours by so called approved schools. This is not the cadets fault. The schools have sold an image to the wannabees and then not delivered what used to be a fairly sound package.

Most do not understand that adding power at a stall does not aid recovery. It is a minimum height loss technique that only works if the AoA is reduced simultaneously and on its own power on will actually worsen the stall.

Most of the recent graduates have flown mutual "solos" instead of having to think for themselves during the light aircraft flying phase and this is being reduced further under Mpl.


Finally the term woefully undertrained is now in black and white in CHIRP reports instead of hearsay and pprune.

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