Im going mad trying to find either tables or graphs that give Vref. Ive hunted through the QRH, FCTM, FCOM to no avail.
The best I can find are 5000' holding speeds that are based on Vref+20 etc such that I can work backwards to find the Vref for a weight. This process is clearly a bit gash.
You really scare me...exactly like some of our NTR DECs at KAL!