I do not know a single person who got his ATPL/CPL/IR etc, and has not found a job
I do not know a single person, having a stake in FTO, that would not agree with you, despite me pointing out that jobs outside cockpit (or aviation) don't count towards "getting a job with ATPL" quota.
Where exactly are those green shoots of recovery
In the exaltation of various training organizations and have been there at least since I've started paying some serious attention to aviation, some two decades ago.