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Old 2nd Apr 2012, 18:21
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Originally Posted by HN39
the AB Chief Test Pilot also seems to talk about "deterrent buffet"
His words :
"The buffeting is a fairly low frequency vibration of the whole airplane, it shakes. It is described per the English term : it is deterrent, which means it is frightening. A sign that all pilots must identify to let them know : Do not go further.
it is impossible that they did not perceived it. You cannot miss it. It shakes badly."

Originally Posted by PJ2
At FL245 the stall warning stopped 40 seconds after it began, the AoA was 10degND, M0.658, VSI 7000fpm down, CAS 278kts.
ref this post
You most probably didn't mean ND for the AoA.
Isn't Stall Warning supposed to be lost with all ADRs selected off ... ?
Pitch slowly reduced to about 10degND still with full forward stick. As it was held the THS unwound and returned to normal settings.
In my experiment THS never did ... ?

In the approach to the stall, the SOP is to apply TOGA power, lower the nose and minimize altitude loss. This still applies!
Not any more.
At the initial aural stall warning, the airplane is still flying and considering as approaching the stall. The procedure is now clearly to lower the nose first and even to have to reduce the thrust in case of lack of pitch down authority.
The initial TOGA action has been banned. Minimizing altitude lost is not the priority anymore, reducing the AoA is.

Last edited by CONF iture; 2nd Apr 2012 at 21:03. Reason: quote correction
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