Jockster what about the IFALPA guidelines that BALPA should be sticking to, they're not just as simple as everyone to the bottom of the list. What about employment rights, nothing written into law about seniority, is it all going to stand-up in court should it be challenged? IAG/BA might not find the BA company council plans too palatable if it isn't respectful of the current UK/EU laws. I cannot think of a situation where the BA CC will be issuing contracts to BMI pilots, I guess BA already have departments that look after all of that, like any other company in the real world. I'm not to sure what you signed up to but it might not be what you thought it was.