Originally Posted by Machinbird
In the AF447 case, they could have recovered if they had initiated somewhere around 10,000 feet, maybe even less,
Originally Posted by OK465
the only aircraft I flew in my short, undistinguished AF career was a jet that I intentionally spun on a regular basis. I flew others with the militia and was very cognizant of the handling quirks of the 100, 105, F-4 & F-16. However, the A-7 I also departed on a regular basis, thanks to training initially provided by the USN.
The one thing I remember learning from the AF was to keep my hair neatly trimmed.

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IT IS SAID AND WRITTEN : 10 000 FT ! Thank you USN ! Thank you Maching Bird, Thank you OK456 ! Shame to european "aviation".