Wow...IMHO if ONE CENT of the retiree's pension is attacked by the active members, in ANY way, the race to the bottom is complete...and it would be your (ACPA's) fault for allowing it...why would it even be on a poll? Who came up with this load of sh*t? Shame on ACPA for even considering the issue. Your problems are not with the retired pilots, you guys need to concentrate on the feds, who are gleefully denying you your rights. (Along with the lovely team you work for.) Focus people, your own future is in danger and ACPA is looking the wrong way on this one.