Danny42C
Those quotes were from John Newton Chance's book Yellow Belly but i remember Denis Peto Shepherd saying the same thing. I will look through his book and once I find what he said will copy the relevant bits.
Newton Chance was an Instructor until about 1944 when he was declared unfit medically and discharged. He died some years ago as did Denis Peto-Shepherd who around 1944 went onto bombers the Lancaster via Wellingtons and Stirlings and after the war was given a permanent commission reaching Wing Commander.
If you google his name you will see his logbooks and other stuff have been donated to some place.