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Old 11th Feb 2012, 23:40
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Surrey Towers
 
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Everything you are pontificating about is nothing short of one eyed blindness.

The RAF's aim was to flatten cities and, uh, "de-house the working population" which was basically a pretext for attacking civilians. Of course, any time the USAAF was operating with the intention of flattening cities and killing civilians en masse -- then it would too be a war-crime.
I seem to recall on the nights that we were being bombed that the Luftwaffe were intent on bombing large areas of London that included an immense amount of civilians. Then they bombed Coventry which had NO strategic value, other cities too. Civilian casualties were high but then again you weren't here were you. That was a deliberate and murderous act.

This country was the subject of a battle which we alone had to defend, it was called the Battle of Britain, have you heard of that? Daily unprovoked attacks and our RAF defended England alone. It is true that several nationalities came to our aid, including Americans, but they were still RAF.

What you appear to be doing is deliberately 'choosing' your subject for effect. Dresden for example. It was the Germans that put up figures of civilians killed as a minimum of 60k but likely to have been 100k. That was just propaganda. After the war, long after, the true number given was 26k but even then it was changed to a lower figure much later.

Then you refer to war crimes by bombing. What was Germany doing to us then? Germany committed war crimes that amounted to millions NOT thousands. Have you not thought, while you were writing about the Hague Conventions how many times a day the German 'broke the rules?' All you are doing is mixing up the numbers to suit any argument you fancy without thought, and ignoring the reality of the time.

Harris was not a war criminal, and it is stupid to say he was. For example: would you have him not do any bombing? Also a stupid thought. His thoughts of Germany reaping the 'whirlwind' was just what WE over here wanted. If you were to suffer the nighttime raids for 18 months you would not be wasting your time in trying to justify bombing. The bombing we did was in response to that we received - just as we the sufferers wanted. Oh, there were people like you around even then but they were ridiculed as you are now. By the way, Harris thought of as a hero.

Of course, we don't forget Pear Harbour, when the Americans started to get a taste of what we got - well Hawaii did. But then again the Luftwaffe didn't bomb America every night - and as matter of fact neither did the Japanese.

Then America joined the war and they bombed Germany, killings civilians, which was, put simply, just a result of war. Are you excusing the Americans too? Le May used his bombers with the intention of killing civilians, he like Harris had no other choice. So, American attacks killed thousands of civilians and that is war. Conventions are almost null and void at times as a result.

I suggest you re-think your attitude and understanding because it is clear that many on this thread think you need to - including me.
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