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Old 11th March 2001 | 20:57
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gazelle507 - You are either astonishingly ill-informed or are being deliberately economical with the truth. To analyse each part of your post in turn.

"PAN AM are in fact approved to conduct all flight phases of the JAA ATPL" A deliberately disingenuous statement - the "flight phases" of the JAA ATPL are no more than the modular CPL and the modular Instrument Rating, for both of which IFTA also holds approval.

"They are also approved to conduct the JAA CPL and ME skill tests and are currently looking at approval to conduct the I/R skill test" Incorrect on three counts

1. CPL Skill Tests at organisations conducting modular courses of training must be carried out by Flight Examiners who are completely independent of that organisation. There is no such thing as 'Approval to conduct the CPL Skill Test'

2. Licensing Skill Tests for the MEP Class Rating can be carried out by any Class Rating Examiner. There is no such thing as 'Approval to conduct the LST(SPA)'

3. The initial Instrument Rating Skill Test may be conducted only by a CAA staff Flight Examiner and must be conducted in the state of licence issue. There is no such thing as 'Approval to conduct the IR Skill Test'

"I have visited the campus at FT Pierce and will recommend PAN AM as a professional and well established school." Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion. However, given the accuracy of your other comments on the subject..........

"West Michigan University is I believe the only other school able to offer JAA ATPL, and only offers residential intergrated courses" Not quite correct, Western Michigan is the only school able to offer JAA ATPL - PanAm is not so approved!

"All other schools are only approved to conduct prep courses" Incorrect - As previously stated, IFTA holds approvals identical in every respect to those held by PanAm. Furthermore, a number of other identical approvals for schools in the US and elsewhere are in the pipeline.

This is post is not intended to make any statement on the merits, relative or absolute, of any training organisation - merely to counter the almost totally incorrect impression of the relative merits of one school over all others created by gazelle507 for reasons which we may only surmise.

Any rumours to the effect that gazelle507 is in the paid employ of PanAm and that his remarks are no more than a scurrilous marketing ploy are, of course, totally without foundation.