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Old 17th January 2012 | 14:21
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Doug the Head
 
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To be honest, I expected a firmer position from the Unions but... I guess only half the company's Pilots are affected by this. Surely the weaker, younger half. And that makes a world of difference.
Well, any union is only as strong as it's weakest link.

As long as weak (pro-)management pilots like AdM don't outright condemn this kind of behaviour, companies will get continue to get away with offering less and less, as evidenced in this topic. It get's even worse as AdM starts defending the positive aspects (seeing a lousy deal as getting a foot in the door of a fantastic career airline ) whilst backstabbing the SF/O's that he probably daily flies with or meets in the crew room who are waiting for a command. Great CRM mate, great CRM!

If he was truly colleague/CRM minded he could perhaps stop undermining his colleagues and instead could perhaps recommend anyone not take this deal so that they would have to improve the package and/or give SF/O's a shot at a command, but hey, that's probably not where his loyalty lies... With pro-management colleagues like these, you don't need any more office manager/bean counter to twist the knife that is sticking out your back.

If anyone wants to find out what kind of 'fantastic career' is ahead of them, if someone wants to know what a Ryanair with an orange paint job feels like and how a company treats their present (SF/O) and future (2 year lousy contract) employees, then look no further than the offer on the table for LIS!
All the backstabbing of colleagues, naive wishful thinking (hoping you'll get a decent contract after 2 years), sucking up to management and deteriorating T&C's in this industry are perfectly summarized in this thread.

The real selling point of Lisbon is not the Lisbon contract. It gives external captains a realistic chance of a way into easyJet if they can tolerate the dire contract for 2 years.
Isn't it typical that some people see something in this sad deal as a "selling point," rather than another sad development of T&C's in the aviation industry? Doesn't it almost makes it sound as a management pilot in who's interest it is to 'sell' someone a fundamentally lousy contract?

Anyway, seriously now. For anyone considering this, ask yourself: why doesn't a career company offer a good (i.e. normal) deal now, but instead they might offer you a better deal in two years time? I thought we were talking about a real 'career company' here, not some kind of rinky dink flying club working on two year contracts?

What 'career company' treats their employees as slave contractors and leaves them in a very vulnerable position in 2014 when their contract is up for renewal and the economy hasn't magically and drastically improved? Will AdM recommend you in 2014 to accept another lousy deal for another 2 years because Project Merlin will improve everything?

Although the results of Project Merlin are not guaranteed, it seems very likely that we will have significant movement on that front next year
Well, it's a significant move alright, but in the wrong bloody direction, but let's have high hopes for Project Vaseline and a good LIS contract in 2014!

It's beyond me why anyone still gives this snake oil salesman any credibility after he has proven to be almost 100% wrong regarding his insights on the development of T&C's!
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