Yep, for people of my vintage its fairly hard to swallow, and meeting some of these legends. Brain, the complete pilot, intelligent, calm, considerate, Boss of TAA, Richie, a terrific bloke, excellent pilot, great administrator, Scottie Allan, cheeky little bastard, hard as nails, but everything you would want and expect, Frank Ball, TAA boss, exceptional in every way, Hamilton, great CEO, his life cut short with a heart attack on the golf course, Menidue, surely the most popular CEO since Richie, every one of them men with vision and love for the industry and love for their airline, then comes Dixon, and Joyce, opportunists, career CEO's who don't give a sh$t if they are selling airline seats or oil rigs, as long as it returns a dollar, the staff matter nil, neither do tradition nor standards, and that is where we are now, I believe its called progress.