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Old 19th November 2002 | 13:02
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Wee Weasley Welshman
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Grivation - it already works this way. In the first few years with most airlines you are paid less. I am. I got 6 grand more after a year and 6 grand more after another year give or take.

Only the same thing as being on a reduced salary. The low costs don't have seniority as such remember. So coming in on day one with not an hour of jet time to your name and expecting the same money as a fellow FO with a couple of thousand hours just because there is no seniority increment isn't really fair is it.

You say you are bonded with your own money. Well its money you never saw, its money that the airline and CTC got a bank to lend them on your behalf. Which they then gave back to you.

Its only mildly different to being bonded for your training. If I left today I would have to pay my employer the balance of my remaining bond. I don't see how thats different to me being liable to pay a bank £5,000 a year whilst the company gave me an extra £5,000 a year to do so.

Surely you must conceed that companies introducing these sort of schemes are not doing it out of the goodness of their hearts.

Conceeded. Never contested.

I find it difficult to believe that someone in an airline flight crew position would condone any behaviour by a company that lessens the conditions of new-hires in THEIR OWN COMPANY. Or is it a case of "I'm alright Jack"?

I don't see how it does lessen the condition of new hires. Their take home pay will be remarkably similar to historical levels.

As Moderator hereabouts one might expect me to post on the hottest Wannabe topic this month would one not? Especially as there has been a wave of whinging about it which I see as a little melodramatic. If we have an informed debate here with me saying its good and you saying its bad then at least Joe Wannabe gets to here the arguments - huh? (Remember thats the whole point).

It has also crossed my mind that as an employee of said company your motives may not always be as genuine as they appear. Command assessment coming up perhaps? Toeing the management line? I hope it isn't true.

Yeah thats right, its all part of a cynical master plot for my own evil ends. Wouldn't suprise me if it was me that came up with this whole shameful exploitation of poor Wannabes. What better way to impress the Chief Pilot than to be seen pontificating about the company on a website, er, not.

I know a bit about training. I know a bit about airline hiring practices. I know a bit about this new scheme. I'm sharing what I know - you can disagree with me, argue with me, refute and challenge me.

But don't insult me please.

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