With limited systems they are much lighter than eqivalent Western advanced A/C
Really?
F/A-18
Loaded weight: 36,970 lb (16,770 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 51,900 lb (23,500 kg)
F/A-18E/F Super Hornet
Loaded weight: 47,000 lb (21,320 kg)
Max takeoff weight: 66,000 lb (29,937 kg)
Typhoon
Loaded weight: 16,000 kg (35,000 lb)
Max takeoff weight: 23,500 kg (52,000 lb)
Su-33
Loaded weight: 29,940 kg (66,010 lb)
Max takeoff weight: 33,000 kg (72,752 lb)
So, Russians do not look "much lighter"
enormous fuel burning jets with extremely limited range,
Really?
F/A-18 Range: 1,089 nmi (1,250 miles, 2,000 km) with only two AIM-9s
F/A-18E/F Super Hornet Range: 1,275 nmi (2,346 km) with only two AIM-9s
Typhoon Range: 2,900 km (1,800 mi)
Su-33 Range: 3,000 km (1,864 mi) with full armament
Here Russians do not seem "with extremely limited range"
PS the only thing is true is the fact that our a-crafts have an ancient computers
Last edited by serge-frog; 14th Dec 2011 at 14:06.