Originally Posted by Joshua
"...and a wing tip stalled, I remember it vividly as the nose dropped through the horizon and the wing dropped giving a bank angle of 90 to 100 degrees. Full opposite rudder was applied"
You have been lucky. Applying rudder wouldn't have come to my mind as first action. Seriously, how many aircraft have been lost in the history of aviation, praticing engine shut-off, stall recoveries ... ? If no simulator, we have trainer aircraft, with benign flight characteristics, to get the basics. If the aircraft is a little bit less forgiving, well start by expecting that engines will not fail, and in the long term your company or country will gain...
I think the RAF came to that conclusion, regarding Canberra training : in 40+ years of service, more airframes were lost in training for engines failures, that it would have been by just allowing the engines to fail by themselves...