2donkeys:
I agree we are really not getting anywhere with this.
As to real life engine failures in multi engine aircraft I understand what they can and will do. In the last forty five or so years of flying multi engine aircraft for a living both fixed and rotary wing I think I have experienced about every problem you can think of, or almost every problem. I have had turbines fail as well as small piston and large radials fail in flight. In fact I had a failure one day just at the moment of lift off with an over gross of about two thousand pounds. It was in a waterbomber, punched the load out and feathered, then flew 75 miles to an airport and changed the engine.
As to your comment on light twins and engine failure on the deck, I guess it all depends on what light twin you are flying. A Seneca 1 will probably not get to far if you are heavy, however an Aerocommander 790B will climb like hell on one, if you are flying it correctly.
Anyhow this thread was about approaches, not take offs.
So I guess I am out of this.
Take care.
Cat Driver:
Flyin'Dutch':
I was not being critical of the pilot in the accident report, I merely commented on what was written in the report. None of us know what exactly happened during those few moments when his problems started.
As to your remarks about pre take off briefs.
I don't have any idea of what you do in an airplane, however we use pre take off briefs based on the factors relating to every take off. I can assure you we do not just state it, we follow them. That is what CRM and trained crews are all about.
Anyhow this is not going to get better so you fly your way and I will fly my way.
Oh by the way, yes. I have made many, many mistakes flying aircraft and learned from every mistake.
I also know enough to understand that we canno't be in control of everything, all it takes is wrong place wrong time and its all over.
Cat Driver: