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Old 27th November 2011 | 19:25
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Machinbird
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Originally Posted by Gums
my understanding from looking at the roll laws is the roll command works the same in "alternate" as in "normal". The only difference I see is the max roll angle allowed in "normal", not the command, but actual body-referenced roll angle. So what I see is what I was used to - let go of the stick and the roll command is zero deg/sec. Am I missing something?
Gums, What you wrote is correct for Alt1 Law but not for Alt2 Law. Alt2 Law is roll direct, i.e. aileron deflection proportional to stick deflection.

Organfreak, There is a reason each transducer on the stick has its own control mechanism, it is redundancy. That redundancy undoubtedly carries through in the software design of the "Bus" so that it can recognize a bad transducer, but don't ask me details because I don't know. At this point, all I know is that it would be extremely out of character not to cover that potential problem.

[quote Dozy]but the control inputs the PF made were completely disproportionate to what was required from the outset. [/quote]
Dozy, I agree with this summation

Originally Posted by TTex
or the PF made completely inappropriate control inputs, almost impossible control inputs. ...........OR, the PF was just hanging on
TTex, he was essentially reversing his roll input every two seconds. Maximum control input pretty well corresponds to maximum wing down. Just hanging on is probably as good a description as any. Over time the intensity of his inputs begins to decrease as he began to get the "touch".

PF was definitely driving a lateral oscillation by means of his excessive control inputs. This period where he is struggling with roll is when the aircraft became committed to a nose up attitude.

So why didn't PNF at least coach him back on altitude? All I can conclude is that both of their scans were in the toilet. "GO Down" , YGTBSM.

Originally Posted by rudderrat
In ALT Law, it has to be flown like any conventional aircraft in roll. The control input has to be held against any roll tendency until the load is trimmed out.
Thanks Rudderrat. I just wanted to be sure. No lateral pulses then in Alt2.

Last edited by Machinbird; 27th November 2011 at 22:54. Reason: remove redundant phrase
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